this morning, they compared the united states h1b policy to the blue card initiative and the european union. gary friedman focused on the public's underlying immigration policy and concluded that immigration policy in the u.s. is reasonable and rational, given the structure of the u.s.'s interest group-based system of political expression. susan marcum of georgetown university's institute for international emigration argued, and many agreed, that the immigration system is broken and generates very perverse outcomes, especially when thinking about the differences between temporary and permanent workers. during our second session, they agreed the u.s. must and the backlog, a very large backlog for visas to better rationalize our policy, although they disagree fundamentally about how and where they should be done. ron from the rochester institute said even if we rationalized the hb1 system, we must look closely at how this is used, not necessarily to attract the best and brightest. our third session focused on something that one of tonight's panelists will discuss, the ways in which current u.